Hey Guys,
This is the follow up to the email with the poll Please vote below and then read if you like.
Again just want to remind you we are only thinking of doing this as a trial in one group only.
The main options are also explained below
Here’s the thing we live in a constant, shifting and changing world, and the internet is no different.
I email every person who cancels their membership with us personally, to find out why, fortunately the email is greeted with for the most part glowing praise.
1) That paying $97/mo is too expensive for them
2) That we offer too much content (they don’t have the time to put up all 11 niches)
There is little I can do to the first one, simply because doing so would lower the quality, something I won’t do.
The second I can effect, and as a guestimation 2/5 people cancel for this reason.
There is a shift in what people believe is the method for building sites, “lots of sites are out, a few big sites are in”.
Do I agree with this? Yes and no, we started out with 100 odd sites and still have those sites today, we are doing tests now with building large single sites but what I do know, is that some people can’t keep up with the content we deliver.
So I’m offering a solution, but I want your feedback.
We have 4 options to pursue and have put up a poll on our blog, but I need to make something very clear here though, because when I told someone about what we planned to do, all he read was we were taking away niches and charging the same. Nothing could be further from the truth…
There are two kinds of people online when it comes to content, those that are happy to simply have content, and so long as it’s readable they are happy and then there are those that believe the quality of the content has to be of the uttermost importance.
The truth is, we have both types of sites, and both serve their own purpose and there is currently nothing out there that offers anything of a premium quality, and by premium quality I mean something you can put on an authority site quite happily, knowing it’s good stuff.
That is the crux of what we are trying to do here, offer two alternatives, a high quality approach, and a premium quality approach.
So with that in mind, here are the 4 options:Option 1
Cost: $97/mo
Niches: 4
Articles Per Niche: 50
Member Limit: 200
Niche Continuation: 1 month (I’ll explain this in a second)
Option 2
Cost: $97/mo
Niches: 4
Articles Per Niche: 50
Member Limit: 200
Niche Continuation: 3 months (we take this niche and provide articles for 3 months straight on each niche)
Option 3
Cost: $167/mo
Niches: 4
Articles Per Niche: 50
Memebr Limit: 100
Niche Continuation: 1 month
Option 4
Cost: $167/mo
Niches: 4
Articles Per Niche: 50
Member Limit: 200
Niche Continuation: 3 months
This is something that we will be implementing across a single group to start with, as a test to see what sort of response there is, so I’d like to know which you’d prefer to have 
Looking forward to your response.
Marc & Daniel
Popularity: 54% [?]
I would prefer to keep the niches in tact. I mean if you only want to drop four on the web then simply pick four and concentrate your efforts on them. I like that there are 11 niches. I know that not everybody will use all the niche packs which is good for me because that is less competition. Do I use all 11? Nope. But I am glad to have them. I’ve actually gone back a year and used article packs that I have access to through the archives and built sites.
Definitely believe in sticking with same basic approach, but with a shift in emphasis from quantity to quality. This new direction would suit me perfectly. I am huge fan and believe PLRPro stands apart in terms of Daniel and Marc’s sincerity, integrity and skill, but do believe the content needs improving. Would much rather pay $97 per month for fewer but better packs - this would be the key to my membership continuing. Sounds like the changes are headed in the right direction guys. Thank you so much.
I have more than 50 websites now and making close to 3K a month. I have nothing to complain and will be happy to continue with whatever that’s been supplied to us.
However, I’m equally keen to learn more about Few Big Sites vs Many Small Sites. So far, PLRPro focus is on many small sites, same with my focus. It would be good if Marc keep us updated on which one is better so that we can change our direction accordingly.
Personally, I prefer option No.2
However, to delight people you serve, is possible to have at least 3 minimum options?.
I like the idea of continuing the niches for several months, but beyond that would prefer to have at least a small number of niche ‘groups’ to choose from - for example: health, business, hobbies, etc. I am afraid that if you only created content for 4 niches a month that I may find that there would be several months in a row that the niches were not of interest to me. If I was at least signing up for a broad category I have interest in I would be able to use most of the content.
Thanks for continuing to improve your service!
ditto Sarah.
I’m very new to internet marketing, so take this comment for what it’s worth.
I would like to see more than 4 niches per month. I pick and choose from the niches that you offer each month. Sometimes I have absolutely no idea what some of the niches are about and I would prefer to be able to choose a niche that I feel comfortable with.
So I feel like I signed up for 11 niche choices per month and now I’m going to be paying the same price for 4 choices.
If you decide to go down to 4 choices, then I would like to see you add the sales letter and squeeze page as added value.
Just my opinion from a newbie.
Thank you
I am also a person that chooses among the available niche packs for the ones I want to actually publish. Going down to 4 niches would restrict my choices and make the content less appealing to me. I really like having 11 niches to choose from.
I think that it is possible that I don’t understand the explanation for the choices. It sounds like I would be getting less of what I want for the same price, and I believe I must be misunderstanding something. Could you supply a bit more detail for folks like me that are confused?
Are you saying that we would get 4 niches and 50 articles for each niche. Then for the next three months we would get 50 articles for each of those niches? If that’s the case this would be awesome. I hate to be so dense about it!
I joined for the 10 niches as I am putting up 10 sites a month I don’t want 50 articles in 4 niches
I would like to keep it at 10 niches
Would it not be possible to have this option as you have 200 people per section then all The people that want this could continue with it
Thanks
George
I joined for the 10 niches as I am putting up 10 sites a month I don’t want 50 articles in 4 niches
I would like to keep it at 10 niches
Would it not be possible to have this option as you have 200 people per section then all The people that want this could continue with it
Thanks
George
I vote for $97 4 niches and 3 months ….
My only other thought is that since you have several “groups” why not open it out a bit.
Rather than subscribe to group a or b or c, etc. why not put all the content together.
This way instead of taking the 4 options that come with your group - whether they appeal to you or not - you get to chose 4 out of the 12, 16 or 20 depending on how many groups there are.
I suspect that a lot of people leave not only because they can’t use all of the info but because a lot of it is not appealing and holds no interest. I know I could not build a site and keep it going if I did not have at least a passing interest in the subject.
Pooling all the packs and allowing member selection makes it very easy for customer to like what they get. It also allows you to see where peoples interest lies.
I’m looking at the two lists of articles and they don’t match up in numerical order. If you look back and forth between the two lists, they are not listed in the same order. Maybe I’m to organized and structured though.
My choice is $97 Per Month - 4 Niches - 50 Articles Per Niche - Limited To 200 - Niche Continuation (for 3 months.)
That way we would have a great selection of articles for promotion. I’m assuming you would get 50 articles each month for three months for that niche.
I was really surprised by what I read on this article and am really concerned about what could be your final decision following that poll.
I think that instead on focusing on why people are leaving, you should definitely focus on why people are staying. In my case, I like variety because I have to feed 40+ sites. That’s why I love the diversity and the amount of articles I receive (I have 2 subscription with you, so that’s 880 articles a month). Really, getting 200 articles a month would make me consider to switch to other services with gives more than that and additional services, like a blogging network to get backlinks, for example.
Each month, I revise my Excel spreadsheet and contract a new service and remove the more expensive one. Once again, you would definitely go on top of other, no matter if we are 100 members instead of 200, and become discarded.
I really advise you to think about losing your fellow customer just to gain a few others.
NONE OF THE ABOVE:
Let me explain:
1. Same price or higher.
2. Half the articles.
No Brainer: NO to all options.
A few suggestions that might add some flexibility to these options would be to provide:
1) a mix of 50 higher quality longer (800-1000 words) articles and 100 blog entry type articles (250-400 words) spread over a 3 month period;
2) a group of perhaps 6 niches of which membership could select 4 niches (the above options place pretty much all our niche options into a very small basket). This would provide more flexibility to the membership; or
3)provide more articles per niche (e.g. 80-100/month) with the same mix of longer and shorter articles and allow members to select for example 2 out of 4 niches each month (allow for additional niches for an additional fee). Remember, we presently receive 550 articles per month and would be getting far fewer articles (recognizing the higher quality), so getting only 160-200 articles of higher quality would be a win-win for everyone and give members more flexibility in niche selection.
Another concern that crossed my mind was whether members who joined early on at reduced membership rates would continue to receive the lower rate with the new options. Also, what happens if the higher priced ($167) option is selected?
Bottom line — I would like to see more flexibility in the choice of niches. Only having four niches to select from each month(especially with the same niche being covered for 3 months) could be viewed as very limiting for those who are used to publishing a higher number of sites.
Just my thoughts,
Brad
I have only been a member for one month. I cheched around to see what the other services provided and decided to go with PLRPro. So what does that tell you. Compared to the others I felt what you offered was the best. Why would you change? The people who are unhappy now probably won’t change their minds.
Rich
As a new customer I am pretty shocked at this to be honest. Can you guys clarify that you will scrap the existing arrangement -11 niches, 40 articles a niche - in favour of one of the above options?
We will get hit with half the articles and just a third of the niches..for the same money? Giving me less than half the product for the same price is not a solution to this problem boys. People will be flocking over to Mike Liebner before you can say ‘PLR’.
I am a non techy, i use the same old tools as everyone else and i can put up 11 sites with all your content in 1 day.
You need to keep the 11 niches, 440 articles, as your flagship product. Offer lower volume packages for less money.
If people can use 1 article from you, then they can use 440. If people can build 1 website with 40 articles then they can build another 10 of them.
The solution to this problem is not with improving quality by supplying less product it is to do with helping people know how to use them.
Guys, i am sure you know this, but it is fact that a hefty percentage of PLR buyers do absolutely nothing with the content and then quit their membership. Thats one of the reasons why i dont panic so much about rewrites..i know most people who get the same content wont do anything with it.
Focus on the 20% who are regular and long term members and who use all your content, help 50% of the remaining who complain because they cant use the content quick enough and the remaining 30% will quit regardless of the volume of content…these are the people who don’t know what to do with 1 article, never mind 100, 200 or 440.
If the number of topics and articles are being reduced per month, I feel like some of the others, that additional features would need to be added besides the better quality articles.
Additional marketing slant copy for the topics would be good, such as ready made blogging packs(professionally spun for each member or the copy changed for every so many members), 1 ezine, 1 squido lense, 1 classified ad, and 1 directory submission article per topic that is professionally spun for each member (or limited copy text for a limited number of members) professionally.
The replacement of 11 topics with 4 topics, and the addition a marketing text materials would be a good combo to drive traffic to a better quality text site.
I am not a writer by any strech of the imagination. I do a whole lot better with math and computers, not re-writing articles. So, the idea of more articles, over a longer period of time, to develop the site, strikes me as ideal. 150 articles over a three month period, with a limited number of members, seems to be ideal for me, even if it is a bit more expensive.
As I indicated back on the earlier blog entry almost two weeks ago, I am interested in articles for a main site, then shorter articles that I could post to blogs to help build up back links.
Since I am currently in Group C I figure that there are at least 33 packs per month are published. The idea of 24 packs per month, where 8 are starting, 8 are in the 2nd month, and 8 in the final month, and picking four of them, is an idea I would like to float. Yes, a couple others have mentioned picking a pack, I am just taking the idea and expanding on it.
Just my two cents, before taxes and inflation. If you don’t like my opionion you may return it, yet there will be a $10 handling fee
Not trying to play devils advocate, but I really like the current format, the selection is great and the cost is very competitve. Having been involved with a few other PLR membership websites, I find the current quality of content still much better than that of the competitors…bar none…and so much more reliable.
Having such a large niche selection every month I am sure is very difficult for PLR Pro to constantly produce. But the variety gives all of us an opportunity to cherry pic the niches that are most suitable to each one us.
This gives all of us more choice…otherwise we’ll all have a limited selection for content, hence for websites. Who wants 200 hundred websites on say ’skin cancer’. Looking seriously at the content that is provided by Daniel & Marc, the content should be just a start when it comes to building on your selected niche. (again great content but just a start)
No offence to anyone, but doing the math (11 niches x 40=440 articles) suggest that the new suggested options are actual downsizing the articles. I know quantity versus quality is not the way to go. But remember the purpose of the content that PLR Pro are providing is such that it should not be the be all and end all.
In there related sit PLR ebook (great site I must add) I think I remember reading that to get the best bang for the buck you customize the PLR articles that you receive. This idea makes sense.
Another question I have is how do you plan on rolling over the current system to the new system with respect to both the content and the monthly fees. Another question is how are going to phase in those that have more than one memberships to PLR Pro that are being offer currently?
Don’t get me wrong I love the job that PLR pro is doing, but the parallel I draw here is that of cell phones and thinking for one self.
You don’t want PLR pro to do all the work for you, and you just plop the stuff in a website and viola your done…were is the customization aspect of PLR.
The only other concern I see is the pricing structure, for many people such as my self…if the current PLR Pro went to say $167/mo, I’d have to regrettable scale back…the current pricing structure is darn close to my limit…I’d hate to loose such a great product.
For what every it is worth, this is my two cents.
Love the product, keep up the great work.
Cheers,
Brian
Hi,
I signed up for 11 niches per month.I want to get the same for the coming months. But, you can continue to deliver articles to the same niches for the next three months. From the fourth month,we can have the new set of niches. This will imporve the sites with more indepth content but at the same time reduce the cost of finding new ideas each month.
Best Regards,
Pattu
I like the idea of having the same niche but the one issue I see is if their are only 4 niches most likely the topics I am interested in will not be present. For the cost I would almost rather get 20 100% unique articles of my choice and not have to worry about a re-write. If I’m put in a corner and get four niches that I am not interested in then my membership would not continue. At least with the current system I get 2-4 niches that I can run with. Plus you have the added benefit that many others are just like me and not all 200 people will use all 10 niches so I have less competition. With just 4 niches then more people will use those areticles and ultimaltly that may affect my traffic because of increased competition.
I could be all wrong on the above but at first glance those would be my main concerns.
I think you should add the following choices to the poll, otherwise you may have just as many (if not more) people canceling their membership for different reasons.
Other options:
Keep existing format.
and
Keep existing format (and run niches for 3 months).
Because even if the quality is higher, the articles still